For the ending i tot of cutting the dialogue and replacing it with the hp thing but no dialgoue between Darren and Benny. It will just show Benny voice overing saying things like he was saved by the phone, pple lend him $$ to solve the prob and we show him being back to normal again, and maybe end with him discarding some soccer betting related stuff, the details are still swiming in my head but no worries minor changes i show u the changed ending this sat and see wat u guys think ok?

Dont worry about the mike thing. Remember we can crop the video in Imovie, that should fix the damn thing no need black bars. My personal opinion is not to have the bars because 1.) it is supposed to be a 4:3 format film as stated in the ECA. 2.) black bars take away other necessary video that we have in other shoots.

Lets reserve all judgement til we meet on 3 Nov. It should not be that bad. Dun forget my script has freezes in the script when we intro each and every char. For those who not sure wat i toking about, I will show u some samples at my house, blame me for being a fan of funny movies like kill bill, snatch, lock stock and barrel etc

to leslie

mmmmm well based on the shots...we can dont need to go to studio to cut ...but placing the two black bars will enhance the movie...since its a mockumentry/PSA ....so ya... editing is not a prob but i feel that you guys take a look first.......so do let me know when ya free

the people whom i need to be there will be darren/leslie/jos.....as for andy and aud...if u can make it i don mind meet u two....

do let me know when ya free before 3rd nov...

Can the flaws be salvaged @ the studio?

Hi Darren & Calvin,

I was wondering if the flaws could be corrected @ the studio? If the flawed segment means a lot to tell the story, I guess the best way is to edit the flawed part @ the studio. Remember they mentioned abt letting us use the studio to do extra effect limited on IMOVIE? Well, wat do u think? They should have the capability to crop the defect part of the footage away. Then we no need to re-take & waste our effort also.

But Darren you gotta see all the raw footage and make the right judgement. Then contact that specky video guy(forgot his name) for help and advise. Calvin, wat u think? since you are doing the shack part(editing)... don want u to waste ur effort also.

Leslie

Like i said, if we want the entire film will have to be black bar through out. As for the size of the bar, can we make it thicker, just like 16:9 widescreen. But last night i played around with the iMovie like cannot lehzzzzzz

my viewpoints...

yo guys...i agreed wif darren we got good, interesting script, dun let it go to waste...we can go ahead on nov 3 to shoot e remaining scenes,
then if we got time, we can consider to reshoot those crucial scenes which are flawed....else we try use the letterbox effect...or i am sure so many of us, sure can think of sth...to make amends...

aft this lst day of e filming, personally i felt our production will overrun 5mins...but we can discuss n edit all e scenes together....we can speed up and omit some scenes....what majority of u guys think?

consider that we are greennhorn,everyone have done good job for e shoot..."pat pat"
that is solution to every problems...united as we stand rite...hehehe

the shots breakdown.

firstly i need to say this after reviewing the shots taken....
most of them had been scrap out cos of either reflection or mic or sound.

the part of leslie and andy part with the boom mic and mic pole coming in. honestly if we are going to give those marks to them. it will take away alot and to me i would rather not have the boom mic in there. tts why i suggest putting the black bar and make it look like some announcement which u had intended to. For the part of putting the black bar, I feel that this must be discussed with the group and come to the decision on putting the bar or not.

the clock part is shakey even when i see it i can see the cam move.

how abt these i am going to do a break down of all the shots and you guys take a look.

Clock
- shot is shakey and deem to be too blur even.

Andy in the bathroom
- the side shot and the front view shot do not match.
-side shot he is whistling
-front view shot he is not.

Andy and Leslie at kopitiam
- boom mic and pole appear in the scene where leslie comes in and sit.
- When it was good sound, Leslie said the wrong words in script. 'Jia gui is eat ball' but he said 'Jia gui is Eat gui'.
- in the two shots you guys taken both got mic appearing.

Andy at home surfing internet and watching soccer win soccer and receives call
- All is fine for the shots

Andy and new car in carpark
- When Andy drives off, reflection of US were shown and even cam man at the boot. (this is the second shot after Jo's reflection appear)

Andy at home surfing internet and watching soccer and loses
- At the room, light might be abit too much.

Andy sells car in carpark
- When Jo drives off, Darren and cam were seen. Not sure if that is buffer zone.
- else all shots fine.

Andy at busy main road
- All shots fine.

So guys from the breakdown, to me I feel that the front part if we have too many mistakes then its no point continuing as They will see those. Its obvious to me when i import the videos and fine it disturbing.

But if the majority of the group decides to keep the flaws in there. I will just go with the flow. I am just giving my 2 cents worth.

If possible I will try to arrange a day before 3 nov and show u all the video and u all decide.

Else I think I will stop editing for now.

I got the sound effects for the following:
digital alarm clock sound
Handphone ringing tone
Handphone busy tone
Handphone pick up button sound
Car Screeching then crash

If any of you want to add your own sound effects you found, please pass to me early. Thanks

Cal if only the paiseh paiseh scene got kena the mike then forget it we dun put the black bar in. It is not nice and if one scene got black bar the whole film needs to be black bar but scenes like the alarm clock already takes up the whole screen

U need to slow down the pace abit in the beginning, the toilet scene, not alot just like one or two second thing for andy to insert his voice over intro, no worries we can do it during editing. THis is important cuz we need to have pacing throughout the film. the scenes that shd be slow are the HDB jump floor scene. Dun worries it should be 4 min + top most.

U can start with watever style of editing u want on the current shoots we have now but re to save the entire good takes in entirety so that we can use them again. I like the car one, not bad. Furthermore where is the scene where ANdy bought a new car AND drives off? the first part have but the driving off? we just put everything in and then start cutting here and there.

mmmmm

ok i am not sure if there is a standard thickness of the black bar...but its an effect called letterhead.

anyway...
when i tok abt the toliet scene...u did a side view and a front view....do take note...ur side view is whistling...but ur front is not whistling....how can i merge two shots together?

for the fps...its was on 29 fps...seems like default settings...but i change it to 25 liao...

and its 4:3....
not widescreen...duh....trust me leh hehehe editor leh... hahaha i won be putting it in HD format cos our cam also not HD lol....

anyway... have done the scenes with some sound effects already...haha

oh ya Director BOSS!!!(hehe) currently the clip i made is already 3 min plus... u still wanna slow mo things...it might extend to 6-7 mins. bare in mind...we only did half of the production ... lol...tts why i am going to upload the new video i did later...and pls see where u wanna shorten...else no time liao... as i also nid to work on the other assignment...lol


welll cheers peeps

Comments on scenes

If that is the case we adopt the black bar for the entire film. It is also a good thing, we can put in subtitles as we have hokkien dialect esp in the dialogues. Im not sure is it because the attached video is a downscaled version but i feel that sample's black bars are too thin, it should be of a standard height, Cal can u check it out.

As for the sample video, Do no worry about certain scenes not having sound, we did not record anyway because most are covered by voice overs later from Andy. The sample video is too fast, there shd be some moments where there are slow fade in or out but not to worry, all this will sort out during post production phase during editing. Key thing ew must focus on now is getting the scenes right, lights right.

So, there should not be any need to do any reshoots (thank god I was fearing that) and we should carry on as planned, next shoot is on schedule and as i mentioned if we can wrap things up on 3 nov we can conc on the post production earlier.

As for earlier comments on the ending let me think up of some other way to end it instead of the Darren - save Andy thing for now we conc on Darren call Andy before he jumps scene.

nice photos uploaded by the way. One more thing, the Benny whistling thing, there should be a 2nd take after this particular one that u took Cal, try to look in the tape again. Also please check the FPS for the video which u imported in, as well as the settings, no widescreen, should be 4:3 scale format.

report from editor

indeed guys....

some shots are either over exposed or mic seen....

sigh

shoots affected are

ah seng sits down with benny (paiseh)

ah seng news paper over exposed.

Benny whistling but front shot...not whistling.

but then....here is a good news.... i used an effect to cover up....

u guys take a look... i try to upload the video here





pics are up also

click here

Feedback on 21 Oct 2007 shoots

Cal just told me some of our "good takes" can see the mike in the background :( lets see how many scenes are affected before we decide do we need a reshoot. If it is just one or two, my feeling is let it be ba, we got a good story let them deduct a few points for that.

If can we refrain from doing any reshoots esp kopitiam scene. So next time remember not to shoot based on the white lines. Eagerly waiting your report Cal

21 Oct Shoot Success

Yo guys,

Hope you guys and gals have a good rest. All in all I think we did a good job for the scenes and we all chipped in on ideas to improve our shoots. Here is a summary of the scenes we taken:

1.) Alarm CLock
2.) Benny dressing up
3.) Kopitiam Scene
3.) PC (winning)
4.) TV (winning) + conversation w Darren
5.) New Car
6.) PC (Losing)
7.) TV (Losing)
8.) Benny Calling friends for help
9.) Table shoot of items
10.) Benny tries to get killed by car

We did more than we planned for which is a good thing, been a shiong day for all so rest well. We will leave it to Calvin now to extract the scenes out proper.

As for the remaining shoots:

1.) Illegal items scene
2.) Benny unkempt face in front of mirror
3.) Pill scene
4.) Blood scene
5.) Suicide Scene
6.) Loanshark Scene

I reccommend we do that in the above order for 3 Nov. Hopefully we can nail it in one day so not everyone will need to stay back at my house to sleep.

U guys can still stay back to sleep if u guys want to esp if it is late and ideally we can start editing on 4 Nov since we catered for it, push the dates forward. Editing wise, we will need at least Calvin and andy around to add in the voice over but if can Jos and Les can help give comments on the editing will be cool too.

Cal im interested in the photos we took yesterday can you post some here too hahaha. ANyway give us early warning if there are any problems with the takes we took so we can plan (i hope not) again.

BTW about the ending i tot of wat Jonathon said last night and I tot of a way to insert a comic twist to the ending.

While ANdy is thinking of jumping we show abit of the place right we show at high floor but never indicate that he is on which floor....

Imagine I come in and rescue Andy correct, but instead of being so sad ending i scold him for being silly and say that jumping off SECOND FLOOR wont die anyway and we show the cam as they are actually on 2nd floor hahaha.

Schedule of 21 oct is up and MasterRundown.

Ok guys. I am only going to post 21st Oct Schedule up for this weekend. As I will be looking into the script and see when we are able to do the other shots. So bare with me... the schedules for 3 and 4 nov will be up by 25 oct.









Here is the Master Rundown and I need the respective people to fill up the blanks. Thanks
The file I will send to everyone Via Email. Those Who update the file Please send it back to me soon.
Thanks

Take note the last page of the script my name is still ah lee, paiseh overlooked it. Darren = Ah Lee in the script

Attire for Andy

Hey guys, these are the shirts for the shoot that day. Most probably i just wear one of it. Darren, can u get a tie for me??

iMovie help frm Calvin

The following are steps on how u can export the music in garage band to iMovie.

Start garage band and select podcast.













The above is a screenshot on how to find the music... look at where my mouse is pointing at....its an EYE!!!! click on that and you can find everything.















The above shows where u can share the music. Its very simple....share to iTunes and later in iMovie look under iTunes Gallery for your file.

Kopishop shots update

This is an open area outside my kopishop. I suggest we can set up the table shot here if too many people or ka-pos on that day.

This will be the proposed scene of where Benny and Ah Seng will be sitting

Ah Seng will walk from the far end to meet Benny.

Here are some of the photos i took of my place, ignore the clutter, will remove them for the scenes, I dun need to explain each photo ba, everyone should know roughly what it is for??

Script is up

I have just emailed all of you the script. It has been change to better reflect the suggestions everyone had and hopefully I remembered all of them haha. Let me know if I missed out on any before next week's meeting.

I will be taking photos soon and hopefully can upload by Tue latest on my place. THis is to help everyone visualise the place and possible scenes. Likewise for leslie please upload potential places at ur side for the shoots as well.

Audrey need u to tag each scene to a number for easy reference and so that Joseph can plan the shoot schedule w Calvin. Cya guys!

BTW I changed the ending abit, do read up and see the slight change, I think it is a better ending in lieu with wat we suggested last week

Hi Guys, I am almost done with the script. Like wat Cal mentioned this wed is for us to know more abt the script. It is also to let u guys give in more tips and ideas into the script. I have laid the backbone for it, and it will be good to finetune or enhance the story or any nice ideas or angles u guys want this to be filmed at.

Thereafter once we are happy with the script we dun touch it anymore until we start filming. We then concentrate on coming up with the storyboard so that everyone knows roughly wat angles, style is needed for each shot. We can also concentrate on coming up with the locations, schedules and logistic issues from then on.

So lets all try to meet up on Wed so that everyone knows they have a stake in this. So far so good so lets make this last few modules a good one to remember.

next meeting time!!!!!

10 OCT 07
at United Square ( novena MRT)

To know more abt script.

6.30 pm is the time to meet....if going to be late pls sms Darren

Important Info for those who did not come on 4 OCT

4 stations each 25 marks

camera usage
-set up of cam and tripod
-focus and zoom
-iris control/exposing
-white balancing
-framing and focusing
-cam angles
-cam moves

Audio recording
-setup of mic cable and boom
-demo audio check
-boom mic handling/cabling handling
-when to use what mic

Lighting
-3 point setup
-key light/fill light
-safe use of lighting
-gel usage

video editing
-capturing clips
-layout of sequence
-transition
-adding music clips from garage band
-exporting

there may be more topics.... but guys make sure to come down to hands on. Next lesson 11 oct

Roles for everyone.... =)

The roles are tentatively as such:

Pre Production
1.) Scheduling - Calvin
2.) Holy Bible - Audrey, Joseph
3.) Synopsis, Script - Darren

Production
1.) Cameraman - Leslie, Joseph
2.) Lighting - Audrey, Darren
3.) Sounding - Calvin, Darren
4.) Director - Darren, Calvin
5.) Scheduling - Audrey
6.) Actors - Andy (main), Darren (good guy), Leslie (bad Guy)

Post Production
1.) Video Editing - Calvin, Darren
2.) Sound Creation - Joseph, Audrey, Leslie, Andy

This list is as for now, but we must be versatile to take on any of the roles esp during production period.

Assets wise:

Leslie and Andy prep their cars (Leslie is admin car, Andy's car to be used in filming)
We need to buy fruits for filming purposes
We need to obtain a few luxury items for filming purposes - laptop, handphone, PSP, some branded shopping bags, some pirated DvDs, cigarette boxes
We need locations to film - HDB indoor (with TV with soccer channel as well as PC/laptop) and outdoor, kopitiam, carpark, busy main road

Firm up of the Script

Hi guys and gals,

After the meeting on Sun, we have more or less firm up the script and ideas. Will brief Audrey more when we meet again but I will just put up a basic flow of the idea here. We can remove/add ideas along the way and hopefully I can come up with a whole flow by this Thurs:

Start (Act 1):

1.)Black screen with words disclaimer saying all the following events and characters are fiction blah blah blah
2.) Show Benny (Lets call our main talent this atm) in interview position. We can do our 3 point lighting here. He will intro himself and will be the main voice over thru several scenes.
3.) As Benny describes himself, we show him doing his morning ritual, getting dressed for work. He is smartly dressed and seem to be doing well.
4.) Benny then describes how he meets Ah Seng his colleague at a kopitiam for bkfast and how he intro Benny to soccer betting
5.) We have a dialogue here between Benny and Ah Seng and Ah seng Describes how he just won 2K from last nights bet on Man U. Benny is interested and learns from Ah Seng how to bet.

Build up (Act 2):

6.) Benny starts betting and wins alot of money. Benny describes how he spends his money, buy exp stuff, car etc and neglects his work and friends. (here we have a short hp conversation with Ah Lee one of his org frd who jio him to go swimming etc but he declines)

7.) Benny describes how slowly he loses control and bets heavily but sustains heavy losses as well. We show him dismay as he watches matches on TV and a mid shot of him facing the mirror every morning but getting more bo chup in his appearance.

8.) We show him being harassed to return money (Pig in door idea here) and Benny describes how he desperately tried to raise $$$ (DVDs, cigarettes, sell his recently bought stuff) and how pple shun him when he tried to approach them (HP call, pple siam him in Kopitiam).

The Climax:

9.) Benny describes his desperate ends at this moment, show him sitting against wall, hands on hair, then he describes ways he tot of to end his life.
10) show benny trying pills (on floor vomiting foam), gas (dead fish in tank), car accident (show him across road and then smash watermelon on road)
11.) Finally he decides on jumping off the HDB. Just as he has one leg up, HP rings.
12.) Ah Lee called him and a dialogue ensues with Ah Lee berating him for ending at such a state and Benny being remorseful. Ah Lee offers him a loan to tide him over.
13.) Show Benny in org interview position as he says he is a change man and swears off betting.
14.) Black screen with words saying not everyone is as lucky and has someone to help them in such crisis. Warn pple to think twice before betting on soccer.