Meeting 30-09-07 as PS Mac

Brief run through on what have been discuss

-Main idea
-Personal Scheduling
-Roles

Main Idea

-Mockcumentary
-Soccer Betting
-A beginning message to let audience known that character is fictional.
-A fictional person who is an addict in soccer betting.
-Timeline story (from an ordinary life -> soccer betting addict -> loses in betting->seeking illegal ways to ease his debt->seek ways to commit suicide ->friend called to help him).
-With fictional character doing a voice over through the majority movie.

Personal Schedules
Please email me Calvin at nitevortex@gmail.com your schedule. Use the following as a format to email me.

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- Timings for oct for meeting up with the groups
=Weekdays after work when you are free to meet up

=Weekends, sat or sun which day would you prefer

- Timing for nov for filming days
=Weekends, sat or sun which day would you prefer

= if require do take leave on weekdays, are you able to do so?

Roles

Darren to update me on this

Assets

Darren to update me on this

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Here is the list:

darren: 93263797

kelvin: 97470447

joseph: 91911537

soon har: 96280105

andy: 96969142

leslie: 90998796

If that is the case, may i propose we meet on mon evening instead. 7pm at Plaza Singapura Macdonalds

mmm

ok boss...

anyway here is my number 97470447
i am free for sun...but give me a time....thanks....

Team contacts and some point to take note

Leslie 90998796
Andy 96969142
Joseph 91911537
Daren 932637397

I don have Andrey and Calvin hp....can anyone update here?

Sunday I anything but not too long...Another point I wanna add, Jonathan said that a documentary should not have us as the talents unless we turn it into a mockcumentary. An example of a mockcumentary is the movie"Borat". I think Daren you gotta get this point clear if not I scare out of point. I a bit confuse already.

Joseph, maybe you can put it across to us better.

Meeting

Hi, just read Darren's ideas and post. Agreed with his agenda and maybe we need to change the genre of our project as Johnathan just mention that ours is a scripted drama and NOT a mini-documentary. However if we still wanna go ahead with our idea, then he suggest we make it into a Mock-cumentary but it will be hard to execute and maybe out of point. Anyway we can discuss further.....

As for the meeting on Sunday, i cant make it at 12 noon. The earliest i can make it on Sun is after 4pm. And Audrey is working at 2pm too, so i guess we gotten make some arrangements. And just for info, i'm also reading another subj TDSZ230 which falls on tues.

ok guys see u!!

First Meeting on 30 Sep 07

Sorry I had to go off early tonight, still havent recover from my flu. Anyway, with the exception of Cal, everyone knows the deadlines adi right. We have one month from now til TMA 02 aka the practical test for planning and after that exactly one month for shooting and editing.

IMO it is doable if we have ample meetings and plan ahead. Not to waste anymore time, we shd meet this sun and settle some stuff:

Agenda
1.) Finalize idea
2.) Finalize everyone's schedules
3.) Hammer out a list of schedules
4.) Share strength and weaknesses and Confirm everyone's roles and responsibilities
5.) Make a list of possible assets
6.) Hammer out a budget

Yes point no 6 just occurred to me. Money is sensitive and I think each of us need to fork out abit of change for some stuff:

1.) Car - Leslie car need fuel
2.) Production misc costs - anything we need to buy during the project
3.) Cast - If in the event we need cast, and no one works for free, wat are we looking at?

For point 4, lets everyone think wat they can help contribute to this project. I have editing experience before but not in iMovie so maybe Cal can help in editing while I give the majority of the shoot style.

We need someone good with planning and scheduling to work out the documents as well as plan our meetings and shooting days. Then we need one to be dedicated cameraman and two others for lighting and sound. One of us probably will be the main actor, lets suss this out on Sun, so hope everyone can attend.

Im up for suggestions on venue and timing, so tentatively i put as this, anyone has better suggestion post it up:

Venue:

Chinatown Point Mac donald

Time:

12pm

Understand that we stay in different parts of Singapore, and this is some sort of a halfway point for most of us but I feel someone shd have a better idea, please share, if not tentatively i put as Chinatown point Mac atm. FYI it is just above Chinatown MRT.

My no is 9062 6541, Leslie can you post everyone's no here as well. Lets do it guys!

Some examples of short films by Singaporeans

I came across this film maker's website with some good examples of films we can take their ideas in sense of shot positioning and usage of light and angles

http://aweething.com/shortfilms.html

I like the Norman guy film, it sort of gave me a base for the soccer betting idea, based on a "loser" guy as the main actor with funny parts

Planning Starts

If we are going thru with the illegal soccer betting idea, we will have to start planning liao. First of all, I suggest that each of us take on an "expert" role for each field.

Example, we shd have one person in charge of a certain equipment/duty:

Pre Production / Post Production
Planning/admin - All the gist of the forms, the holy bible etc
Script
Video Editing

Production
Audio - Someone to take the mike
Video - Someone to take the camera
Lighting - Someone to observe lighting
Director

As a small short, the director will be some one besides cameraman as the cameraman will be conc on the shots and stuff. The person who was in charge of planning and admin will help do the lighting imo. Like that we should just use 3 or 4 pple for crew, while we can free up 1 or 2 for casting.

As for misc stuff, here are some of the stuff i think we need to get:

Car? to carry the equipment
Cast? Of cuz we need to minimize and also find willing pple to act for us.
HQ Venue? Somewhere for all of us to put stuff, do meetings or do the post production stuff

For car I cant help cuz no car lol. Cast we will firm up once we firm up script. HQ i can volunteer my place as usual since only me and my wife but it is in punggol so up to u guys.

On top of these, we need to write up what are our avail timings for the month of oct and nov EACh and pass this to the planner so that we can see when we can meet for stuff and filming liao.
I will write on the synopsis of the idea on paper and lets all discuss and chip in ideas to make this a ideal script for everyone before commiting it to PC.

Late Comer Me

Hi, sorry i'm in so late.

As for Darren's idea, here are some suggestions:

- for finding ways to return bookies' money, he can first maxed up all his credit cards and credit lines as a temp solution, subsequently, the banks caught up with him, threaten to make him a bankrupt, report him to his employers which will make lose his job. These can be illustrated after he fails to borrow any money from friends..
- this idea is just to make the main character in a worse state as to highlight the possibly worse part of uncontrolled illegal betting.

- as for the person who eventually lend a hand to him can be his girl friend whom he neglected so much since he has been hooked on betting. Even though his girl tried repeatedly to make him quit, even to the extent of threatening to break up with him but to no avail.
- in the end, its his gf who give him a lifeline. maybe a bit of touching element and female factor since there is no female casting yet....


Just some considerations for all to think and ponder, dont have to use if you guys think its not relevant. thks.

Daren you can call the shots now...

Hi Daren,
I remember you've told me about the ideas you have in mind. I think you can come out with the main body of the plots and such for us, pass it to us or email us and we will discuss the details during lesson. Swee boh? Looks like the ball is starting to roll as you have wished, good start.

I think eca deadline is 16 nov

Oops...me audrey in case u guys dunno who posted this...hehe

fyi, i think e eca deadline is 16nov...

eh...i will be having my exam on nov 12 for e other module...

I think we can start planning our roles...

In for darren's plot

Hi all

I think darren's plot is is interesting and feasible...in view of the time we have, and i feel his story show many facets of life, eg e part when e old frd come to rescue in e end...to know who is really good pal...so this kind of thingy pple can easily relate...
the locations, scene in hdb flat , void deck are accessible, and for e cast,maybe we can find talent among us....haha....if majority agree on darren's idea, we shld start planning the work flow...
n guys , i working shift...we need work a schedule, so i can arrange to change shift in adv...

ideas are simple...but planning will be a issue

hey ya guys...
i will be sailing on sun nite and back on wed morning.
i will try to make it on thurs nite class...
anyway
i am fine with darren's idea as at the moment i cant think of much ideas...

Some things that good about darren's idea
- venues are easy to find and use like coffeeshop (leslie should be able to allow us some time).
- its a issue which we all have seen or experience before...hopefully not the bad side.

Well, this is my 2 cents worth :P

guys if u cant post in here please contact me as I am the blog owner...

People who have posted
-Me
-Darren
-Leslie

anything please post here... so i can keep track

thnks

Daren's idea steady boh?

Hi all,
I suggest follow Daren's idea since most of you are too bz with work. Also I suppose all are so #$%$^$ bz until no time to log in to this blog so where got time to come out and discuss outside lesson time???...kekeke....anyway if all agree, we should concentrate on touching-up his idea instead. Daren told me he already got in mind what to shoot so I guess he will direct in this project. I also agree with him that the sooner we tie down on wat we want, we can start to shoot early bit by bit instead of last minute come out and cheong 2-3 days. This is not written project anymore. so how? On boh? Reply leh!!!!

I missed last night's class. Anything interesting to take note? I think next class we need to tie down timings and AL for the proj, and probably to decide on the proj we want to do.

I do not think it will be wise to start thinking nearer to the project deadline, there are alot of planning to do, and if we were to look for talents, it will be impossible to ask pple too last minute.

Do you guys fancy a quick meeting this Tue evening for most of us still around? At least we have more time to discuss rather than just during the break on Thu.

Short film concept

My idea is in relation to this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppAn0LNU_V8

- take note the concept
- 2 unlink events took place at same time
- drive a strong message to the viewer at the end
- can borrow this idea and shorten it further

That my input for this discussion.

My EPL Affair

Yoz all,

Okay here is my pitch:

A Comedy based on a young guy's fortunes and misfortunes with Soccer betting. We show this guy's addiction to soccer betting and how he wins lots of money and how after a series of losses find himself in debt, bookies coming after him.

He tries to get help from his so called friends who ran away when they learn he no money. Desperate, he thinks of many ways out of his predicament which will be many short scenes like

1.)Selling illegal VCDS - Kena chased away by police
2.)Selling illegal cigarettes - Same
3.)Snatch theft or rob bank etc

But his cowardly self dismisses every idea as he thinks of the dire consequences. Lastly he cannot take it decides to commit suicide so he again thinks of the various ways to die:

1.)Jump
2.)Eat pills
3.)Kena hit by car

All with hilarous results and reactions from him as he also kia see. Finally he is so down he does some self reflection before a true friend whom he shunned in the beginning of the film comes with his family and save him by giving him a loan, then he understands the meaning of true friends and vows off betting.

Last scene shows him betting (again??) but not! its him playing PS2 with a young cousin and him being esctatic after winning hahaha.

Comedy in the sense show how he bungles while thinking of all the ways to get $$, how pple siam him and how he tot of dying. Serious part aka self reflection part is when he realised his folly and when his friend and family saves him.

Moral of the story is abt soccer betting and its pitfalls. Alot of the scenes are easy to do and i figure not so much props involved. Thing to worry as always is cast. Wat u guys think?

Welcome to our blog.

ok guys...blog is up...

ermmm we need to discuss the tma03 now.. lol

so ya...

I will be on ICT from 17 - 29sept
hopefully no sailing
then i can work with u guys too lol


so ya... I will try to post the TMA question so we can discuss.... =D